Two comments by different people the recent change in proposal by the parents:
This is a Trojan horse, that will make the idea impractical. How much will it cost a student to participate till 12 noon. Half the school day should be around 8,000 dollars, still a lot of money.Four hours of secular studies a day is probably insufficient, at least as taught in th epublic schools. I can't imagine that public schools would be able to accomodate this. If so, everybody else would want to start classes after noon.Skip dovening b'tzibbur. It takes too long in yeshivot, and contributes to making th eprogramme difficult. Moreover, the yeshiva school principals will feel tremendous conflict of interest in this; they clearly don't want this to succeed, as it will reduce them to being principals of hebrew studies rather than full principals. and Interesting-not a constitutional law expert-but the proponents have just been fed a poison pill by the community rabbis who
> urged negotiation with day schools instead of developing a plan > without them. > Having the Orthodox kids separated by time going to public school fails > any smell test of the Establishment Clause-even that of the reactionary right.
Some day schools have no problem teaching limudei kodesh in the > afternoon-. So if the day schools were serious about the proposal they would teach limudei chodesh after public school.
"The proponents seem oblivious to the costs on raising Jewish children such mixing would involve,” Stern [GC of the AJCongress] said, “and it would mean limudei kodesh [Judaic studies] would occur only late in the afternoon and at the price of all participation in extracurricular activities. It will produce, without fail, a generation of am aratzim [ignorant people].”
He is one to talk. Since when has the AJC cared about whether or not we raise a generation of am aratzim? What the heck has the AJCongress done for jewish day schools, other than oppose voucher programs and the like?
I simply CANNOT believe Stern's quote either. We don't want your opinion on the religious MERITS of this program, idiot! We want your opinion on the LEGALITY of it! I can't believe that the Jewish Week actually ran the quote, though. How stupid.
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Two comments by different people the recent change in proposal by the parents:
This is a Trojan horse, that will make the idea impractical. How much will it cost a student to participate till 12 noon. Half the school day should be around 8,000 dollars, still a lot of money.Four hours of secular studies a day is probably insufficient, at least as taught in th epublic schools. I can't imagine that public schools would be able to accomodate this. If so, everybody else would want to start classes after noon.Skip dovening b'tzibbur. It takes too long in yeshivot, and contributes to making th eprogramme difficult. Moreover, the yeshiva school principals will feel tremendous conflict of interest in this; they clearly don't want this to succeed, as it will reduce them to being principals of hebrew studies
rather than full principals.
and
Interesting-not a constitutional law expert-but the proponents have
just been fed a poison pill by the community rabbis who
> urged negotiation with day schools instead of developing a plan > without them.
> Having the Orthodox kids separated by time going to public school fails
> any smell test of the Establishment Clause-even that of the reactionary right.
Some day schools have no problem teaching limudei kodesh in the
> afternoon-. So if the day schools were serious about the proposal they would teach limudei chodesh after public school.
Love this hipocracy:
"The proponents seem oblivious to the costs on raising Jewish children such mixing would involve,” Stern [GC of the AJCongress] said, “and it would mean limudei kodesh [Judaic studies] would occur only late in the afternoon and at the price of all participation in extracurricular activities. It will produce, without fail, a generation of am aratzim [ignorant people].”
He is one to talk. Since when has the AJC cared about whether or not we raise a generation of am aratzim? What the heck has the AJCongress done for jewish day schools, other than oppose voucher programs and the like?
I simply CANNOT believe Stern's quote either. We don't want your opinion on the religious MERITS of this program, idiot! We want your opinion on the LEGALITY of it! I can't believe that the Jewish Week actually ran the quote, though. How stupid.
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