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Friday, October 07, 2005

Mistakes?

Article over at YNet about a letter that the Yesha Council plans to distribute to West Bank residents before Yom Kippur. The letter discusses mistakes that the settler group feels they made during the disengagement.
One of the "mistakes" they address is the lack of communication between protesters and their leaders, particularly in Kfar Maimon. The settler leaders are also critical of the widely photographed and circulated hugs between the soldiers doing the evacuating, and the settlers being evacuated, as an error:
With all the high emotions surrounding Gush Katif, a few minutes before the last Jews were removed from the synagogue at Neve Dekalim, Yesha Council officials on site felt a need to demonstrate and to include the eviction forces in our pain.

We (now) feel we could have done without the hugs, we could have held a more wide-ranging dialogue, even if this would not have stopped the destruction machine.
The letter ends with the following, which seems to me to be a blatant threat of violence if and when the next stage of disengagement takes place:
the State of Israel wants to return to everyday life and forget this crime. But we say tens of thousands of times each day 'Never forgive, never forget.' We will say it to anyone who wants to forget.
...the coming danger is already here, and despite trying to learn the lessons from the current struggle – no one has all the answers. There is no secret way to attain victory over a government and an army without resorting to violence.
Wow. This message of a lack of forgiveness and a threat of violence is really not in the spirit of the day of repentance, Yom Kippur. I also find it difficult to believe that the hugs between soldier and settler, which were so emblematic of the struggle over the disengagement, and gave faith in our nation of Am Yisrael to so many of us who were watching events from afar, could be characterized as a "mistake".
I'm not sure what the benefits of putting this letter out so close to Yom Kippur are. To me, it just seems a distraction from the order of one of the holiest days on the Jewish calendar.

11 Comments:

Blogger Ezzie said...

Agreed. I'm curious as to how many these 'leaders' speak for at this point, however. As many have said before, the hugs and non-violence is what seperates 'us' from 'them' - to lose that would be terrible.

11:28 AM  
Anonymous Mycroft said...

Very well put Orthomom. Does Yesha want to cause the start of another 1900 years of no Jewish sovereignty in Israel.

12:53 AM  
Blogger Jameel @ The Muqata said...

Orthomom: We received the letter you refered to on Friday.

Mrs. Muqata and myself had a very similar argument over shabbat lunch. Were the hugs the right thing? The wrong thing? Was it S&M? In terms of forgiveness, I have a very hard time right now.

See my posting on the subject here: http://muqata.blogspot.com/2005/10/refusing-disengagment-orders-untold.html

7:24 AM  
Blogger YMedad said...

I think that statement was misunderstood. The meaning was, and both Pinchas Wallerstein and MK Uri Ariel both spoke at a Shiloh Bloc town hall meeting last night Motzash (that's short for Motzei Shabbat), where I live, that violence always has a better chance to gain you something but that we have no desire to go that way, to use violent means or to cause irreversible damage. For example, Moetzet Yesha did not back blocking of the roads. There is not only a tactical question but a moral deliberation involved and Moetzet Yesha, unlike the Arabs of September 2000 or the occasional Druze demos, do not advance violence as an instrument.

3:27 PM  
Blogger Jameel @ The Muqata said...

Winky: Road blockings done by the activists this summer was not violent, but passive civil disobedience -- and there was no need for Moetzet Yesha to shy away from it. The real violence came exclusively from the Police.

I assume you know by now who really threw the "ninjot" on Highway #1 this summer...

5:05 AM  
Blogger muse said...

The only letter I want to get from Moetzet Yesha is their mass resignations and apologies.

3:05 PM  
Anonymous daat y said...

no violence-but why love to those who are expelling you.

4:51 PM  
Anonymous daat y said...

no violence-but why love to those who are expelling you.

4:51 PM  
Blogger Jameel @ The Muqata said...

Daat y: Ever heard of S&M? Give a big hug those kicking you out of your home.

7:47 AM  
Blogger YMedad said...

Again, a clarification. Blocking of roads is a CD action and permitted. But I am not talking about the "ninjot" (two nails intertwined and thrown on the roads to cause blowouts for those not in the know). I am talking about the tire burning and the arguments whether blocking of main highways could cause potential pikuach nefesh situations like delaying ambulances. Even Rav Mordechai Eliyahu came out quite critical of this form of protest. And not that I supported everything Moeztet Yesha did or didn't (truthfully, the roadblocking was quite counterproductive in my opinion) but I was just trying to correct what I perceived was a wrong impression in the main blog.

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