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Sunday, May 29, 2005

Sticker Shock

We got our tuition bill this week from our kids' Yeshivas. There are no words.
Anyone else out there paying upwards of 20% of their income on tuition? I'd love to hear from you so I know we're not alone...

15 Comments:

Blogger rockofgalilee said...

We moved to Israel. When you factor in how much tuition we don't pay, we may be almost even on the salary scale.

5:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just wait until theyre in college! You don't WANT to know what % of our income we are paying!

12:13 PM  
Blogger Kiki said...

with 3 boys in yeshiva it seems any money we make goes that direction. ugh! i feel your pain.

12:41 PM  
Anonymous Shifra said...

Yep, we are around 20% as well.
That's why they say yeshiva tutition is the best form of birth control.

:)

9:23 PM  
Blogger YOSEF said...

So what is the answer?

3:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WITH 1 KID IN A LOCAL DAY SCHOOL-WE ARE PAYING OVER 20% OF OUR INCOME. BOTH HUSBAND AND WIFE WORK-HUSBAND FULL TIME-WIFE ONLY 30 HOURS A WEEK OUTSIDE THE HOME. IF WE HAD 3 KIDS-IMAGINE. NOW YOU SEE WHY 0RTHODOX IS GOING TO HAVE A TOUGH TIME CONTINUING-THE DAY SCHOOL MOVEMENT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR MIDERATE INCOME PEOPLE. WE ARE ABOVE AVERAGE INCOME HOUSEHOLD-BUT ORTHODOXY IS BECOMING FOR THE RICH ONLY.

4:40 PM  
Blogger YOSEF said...

What is the solution? The teachers are certainly not overpaid, and we can't expect to reduce their salaries. So what can be done?

6:46 PM  
Blogger VOS IZ NEIAS said...

Hey 20 percent isn't bad

8:52 PM  
Blogger Air Time said...

I think ortho evra or depo provera should advertise at Mikvahs with a big tuition bill and a sample pack for everyone who walks in.

9:31 AM  
Blogger Ke'evei Beten said...

rock of galilee... rock on!
move to israel - jewish education is part of life here...
why do people live in america???
why why why

anonymous is right - being orthodox is becoming more about keeping up with the jones... about being well to do... sometimes sociology tells you what a communities real values are, despite what their rabbis say...

10:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Having served on a local yeshiva tuition committee I unfortunately have been witness to numerous instances of creative accounting (aka tax fraud) by members of our community who have "cash" businesses. On top of this many then apply for tuition reductions based on their "incomes". There are some who will be "honest" enough to admit that their tax forms don't reflect what they truly earn. They wink and offer their tzidkus up as "not wanting the yeshiva to lose out"

5:39 PM  
Blogger Oysvurf said...

Israel is probably the answer; though that I think that going solely to save on yeshiva tuition is doomed to fail. Many more memebers of the UK orthodox community make Aliyah than do americans, and they have state funding for religious schools. So it's obviously more complicated issue.

My guess is that if the government started allowing vouchers, tuition would go down for a year or two and then go right back up. Discounts would get cut and the families running many Yeshiva Day Schools would take a bigger cut of the pie. Government support isn't always the answer - just look at University tuitions. As grants went up, tuitions went up. This year the feds cut support and lo and behold private university scholarships are available to keep the kids in school.

5:47 AM  
Blogger Uberimma said...

We haven't even gotten as far as yeshiva. I pay almost exactly fifty percent of my salary--well over half of my take-home--on my son's daycare. And he isn't at the JCC--he's at the Y, because it's $200 a month cheaper. It's about 20% of our total take-home pay. And it's just one kid. Why am I bothering working, then? Because my husband is a yeshiva teacher, and gets no health insurance. That's why.

10:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We're at 30%...but the new tax refund from NY state should ease the pain...a tiny bit.

6:27 PM  
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